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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator
Date Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:42:53 GMT
Looking at the community activity this project looks like it lacks the
diversity required. For example, on the vote thread on the projects
own dev list there were only three +1 votes, one of which came from
someone who has only ever posted to the dev list on two other

Furthermore I'm worried that in Janne said:

"The point of Apache Incubation is to incubate a community of people who can
create good software. So far our community seems to be dwindling more than
increasing (and I accept the blame for that - I just haven't had the time nor
the interest to put into this project). So I don't think it's wrong to say that
our incubation has essentially failed, and that we should consider some other
avenue, and go away from messing up the Apache Incubator."

and Harry said:

"We simply can't get people interested in doing the necessary things, both
the tech work and the non-tech work, and I personally do not have that much
time for the project either anymore.
So moving over to github is fine for me. (what will be the starting point
in github BTW, the current trunk, or 2.8.4 ?)"

Now we have this proposal to graduate. Juan Pablo didn't like the idea
of saying incubation had failed and has championed graduation.

Can I ask for someone more aware of JSPWiki activities please provide
a summary of why the proposals to declare failure in Jan were rejected
and what activities have been undertaken to turn this "failure" to
graduation. Please don't feel you need to defend the proposal, I'm
just looking for information to support my vote and also to help me
think about the discussions a couple of months ago about different
styles of incubation activity.


On 15 April 2012 23:46, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
<> wrote:
> Hello all,
> The Apache JSPWiki project entered Incubator in October of 2007. Since then
> we have added two new committers from diverse organizations. The codebase
> of our product has been growing slowly but surely, and we think is mature
> enough to go through graduation; also, we have made two releases following
> the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the mentorship we have received
> through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community
> using accepted Apache practices.
> Given these milestones, I feel that JSPWiki is ready to graduate from
> Incubator.
> The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that JSPWiki is
> ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board
> resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The
> complete graduation process is described [1].
> Please cast your votes:
> [  ]  +1 Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator
> [  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of JSPWiki
> [  ]  +1 Reject graduation of JSPWiki from Incubator
> This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.
> [1]
> Thanks,
> juan pablo

Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)

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