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From Sam Ruby <>
Subject Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)
Date Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:07:50 GMT
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Benson Margulies <> wrote:
> It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
> setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
> the board, I would want to pilot the new scheme for some time before
> tearing down the existing incubator. All of this looks to me like more
> than 2 months.
> A trial balloon: the board appoints Chris to run a PMC to set this up
> and try it out -- with the intention of being a short-lived
> phenomenon. Meanwhile, Noel or I or some other nominee continue to
> make the best of the incubator as we have it, including the gradual
> modifications pushed by Sam and Joe. If the board eventually decides
> that the ipmc is entirely obviated by the membership and comdev, we'll
> hire a bagpiper for the closing ceremony. If it turns out that a small
> IPMC providing support and assistance to 'probationary projects' is
> desired, we'll go on a diet.
> I just don't think it is realistic to imagine that in 60 days from
> some near-term board meeting, we can set up this new plan, debug it,
> and transition the existing clutch. While this can't avoid ending up
> as electioneering, I don't think it a good idea to simply appoint an
> IPMC chairman who is focussed like a laser beam on this restructuring
> to the exclusion of making the best of what we're currently doing.

This makes sense to me.  Podlings are an obvious granularity to try out this.

Over a period of years we dissolved Jakarta.  We started by graduating
Ant and Tomcat to be TLPs.  This was once a new concept.  Over time,
less and less remained under the umbrella.

Selecting individual podlings that seem best equipped to try out the
new experiment would be a reasonable way to proceed.

- Sam Ruby

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