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From Robert Burrell Donkin <>
Subject Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions
Date Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:50:41 GMT
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier
<> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst
>> <> wrote:
>>> IMO the champion helps clarify the incubator process up to acceptance
>>> of the podling into the incubator. For example the champion for Wicket
>>> was not a singular person, but both Alex Karasulu and Upayavira were
>>> both very instrumental in smoothing our transition into the incubator.
>>> general@ can be very confusing and sometimes even hostile towards new
>>> podlings. Having a champion watching out for the podling is rather
>>> useful....
>> Agreed, IMO the role of the champion is to help the podling get
>> started (which might include help find a sponsor, mentors etc) and
>> they might only follow things from afar once that's done.
> So, why do we need a role for that?
> I rarely see the call "We need a champion" on the mailinglsit. So I
> assume that these persons are somehow connected to the project before.
> Or they read the draft-proposal and contact people directly.

I suspect that they often contact people directly

> At the moment it looks as it is required to have a Champion. I don't
> think so. It should be optional, if we really need such a role. I
> still doubt. Instead, a Champion is more or less the first mentor a
> project has. It should be called Mentor (or initial mentor) to avoid
> to much unnecessary terms.

IIRC separating these roles allowed specialists to navigate the
podling approval process without having to make a long commitment. Our
documentation for this process seems ok now. So maybe champions are no
longer needed.


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