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From Michael MacFadden <>
Subject Re: Wave Incubator Next Steps
Date Sat, 04 Dec 2010 22:35:31 GMT

If I understand correctly, an individual could submit an ICLA first and then later submit
the CCLA if the employer or situation requires it.  Meaning that previously submitting an
ICLA would not be in conflict with a subsequent CCLA.  If that is the case I would recommend
all of the initial committees for Wave get those in as soon as possible. Thanks. 


On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Ralph Goers <> wrote:

> On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Tad Glines wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Leif Hedstrom <> wrote:
>>> On 12/04/2010 09:22 AM, Tad Glines wrote:
>>>> Also, committers will not be issued accounts until their CLA (either ICLA
>>>> or
>>>> CCLA) has been received and recorded. Here's the new committers guide:
>>> I'm fairly certain all committers needs to fill out the ICLA, no?
>> Yes, I see. Reading this <> further I
>> see that all have to sign an ICLA, but for some their employer will need to
>> submit a CCLA.
> It is usually the case that some will want their employer to submit a CCLA rather than
need to.  The ICLA is the way an individual states that they have the right to commit the
software they contribute.  If during the course of their employment they are called upon to
enhance or fix bugs in an Apache project the ICLA is sufficient for them to do that provided
they have permission to do so from their employer.  The CCLA protects the individual in that
case by explicitly stating the listed individuals have that right. The CCLA is also one way
a company can donate software directly to the ASF.  There are quite a few companies that don't
want to submit a CCLA but will allow their employees to contribute. In those cases it is up
to the individual to make sure they are protected should management changes occur, etc.
> Ralph
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