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From Mohammad Nour El-Din <>
Subject Re: Apache Isis: project pre-proposal: looking for mentors and a sponsor
Date Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:46:06 GMT
The idea sounds fantastic

+1 (Not binding) on the pre-proposal. And if you allow me to join the
committers team, it would be an honor of mine.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM, James Carman
<> wrote:
> More precisely, that'd be James Carman (Commons).  I'm not on the Wicket team.
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Dan Haywood <> wrote:
>> We're considering proposing a group of related open source projects to the
>> Apache Incubator.  At an unconference a few weekends ago I met and sounded
>> out Bertrand Delacrataz and Lars Eilebrecht, who suggested a brief posting
>> here would be a good first step.
>> So: the Apache Isis (?) project will provide the ability to rapidly develop
>> domain-driven applications.  Built on the Naked Objects framework
>> ( and a number of related sister projects
>> (, it allows full stack apps to be built just by
>> writing pojo domain objects.  Technically, it's somewhat akin to an ORM, but
>> rather than just automatically persisting your objects, it automatically
>> provides all the other necessary layers.  This means that the development
>> goes very very quickly, focusing on the bit that really matters; the
>> business application.
>> One particularly important aspect is the ability to customise the generated
>> UIs.  The framework supports pluggable viewers running either as webapps and
>> RIA, and uses existing libraries such as Apache Wicket to support
>> customisation. The framework as a whole is customisable and provides a
>> plugin architecture to allow the other components to be pluggable.
>> For some time Naked Objects, the framework, has elicited interest from
>> "early adopters", but our community remains small.  We're hoping that Apache
>> will provide a platform by which we can grow our community into the "early
>> majority".  We can demonstrate the commitment to do this (two books have
>> been written on Naked Objects).  Until recently there were just two main
>> committers, both freelancer developers based in the UK.  Since then we have
>> picked up three new committers (in Sweden, USA and South Africa), two
>> directly attributable to the publication of the second of these books in Dec
>> 2009.
>> From our understanding of the Apache process, our proposal will need some
>> mentors and a sponsor.  Vincent Massol (Maven) has already offered, as has
>> James Carman (Wicket).  We're hoping that this post might interest a few
>> more, in which case we'll post a formal project proposal.
>> Thanks for reading this, looking forward to your replies.
>> Dan Haywood
>> Robert Matthews
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