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From Robert Matthews <>
Subject Re: Apache Isis: project pre-proposal: looking for mentors and a sponsor
Date Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:43:30 GMT

Likewise, we'd love to have your input.  Drop me a line with your 
SourceForge username and I'll get you set up.

Not only has Dan written a Wicket viewer, but we have also previously 
created a very lightweight web framework of our own called Scimpi.

Look forward to discussing you ideas.

Robert Matthews

On 22/07/10 21:12, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> I'm especially interested in a Tapestry integration ;). You might want 
> to consider me as a committer...
> Uli
> On 21.07.2010 11:56, Dan Haywood wrote:
>> We're considering proposing a group of related open source projects to
>> the Apache Incubator. At an unconference a few weekends ago I met and
>> sounded out Bertrand Delacrataz and Lars Eilebrecht, who suggested a
>> brief posting here would be a good first step.
>> So: the Apache Isis (?) project will provide the ability to rapidly
>> develop domain-driven applications. Built on the Naked Objects framework
>> ( and a number of related sister projects
>> (, it allows full stack apps to be built just by
>> writing pojo domain objects. Technically, it's somewhat akin to an ORM,
>> but rather than just automatically persisting your objects, it
>> automatically provides all the other necessary layers. This means that
>> the development goes very very quickly, focusing on the bit that really
>> matters; the business application.
>> One particularly important aspect is the ability to customise the
>> generated UIs. The framework supports pluggable viewers running either
>> as webapps and RIA, and uses existing libraries such as Apache Wicket to
>> support customisation. The framework as a whole is customisable and
>> provides a plugin architecture to allow the other components to be
>> pluggable.
>> For some time Naked Objects, the framework, has elicited interest from
>> "early adopters", but our community remains small. We're hoping that
>> Apache will provide a platform by which we can grow our community into
>> the "early majority". We can demonstrate the commitment to do this (two
>> books have been written on Naked Objects). Until recently there were
>> just two main committers, both freelancer developers based in the UK.
>> Since then we have picked up three new committers (in Sweden, USA and
>> South Africa), two directly attributable to the publication of the
>> second of these books in Dec 2009.
>>  From our understanding of the Apache process, our proposal will need
>> some mentors and a sponsor. Vincent Massol (Maven) has already offered,
>> as has James Carman (Wicket). We're hoping that this post might interest
>> a few more, in which case we'll post a formal project proposal.
>> Thanks for reading this, looking forward to your replies.
>> Dan Haywood
>> Robert Matthews
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