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From Robert Matthews <>
Subject Re: Apache Isis: project pre-proposal: looking for mentors and a sponsor
Date Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:38:08 GMT

It great to see this interest.  We are currently hosted on SourceForge 
so could you please email me details of your user name there and I'll 
set up SVN access for you.  Any ideas what you'd like to work on?

Look forward to discussing it with you on the contributor mailing list.

Robert Matthew

On 21/07/10 12:46, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> The idea sounds fantastic
> +1 (Not binding) on the pre-proposal. And if you allow me to join the
> committers team, it would be an honor of mine.
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM, James Carman
> <>  wrote:
>> More precisely, that'd be James Carman (Commons).  I'm not on the Wicket team.
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Dan Haywood<>  wrote:
>>> We're considering proposing a group of related open source projects to the
>>> Apache Incubator.  At an unconference a few weekends ago I met and sounded
>>> out Bertrand Delacrataz and Lars Eilebrecht, who suggested a brief posting
>>> here would be a good first step.
>>> So: the Apache Isis (?) project will provide the ability to rapidly develop
>>> domain-driven applications.  Built on the Naked Objects framework
>>> ( and a number of related sister projects
>>> (, it allows full stack apps to be built just by
>>> writing pojo domain objects.  Technically, it's somewhat akin to an ORM, but
>>> rather than just automatically persisting your objects, it automatically
>>> provides all the other necessary layers.  This means that the development
>>> goes very very quickly, focusing on the bit that really matters; the
>>> business application.
>>> One particularly important aspect is the ability to customise the generated
>>> UIs.  The framework supports pluggable viewers running either as webapps and
>>> RIA, and uses existing libraries such as Apache Wicket to support
>>> customisation. The framework as a whole is customisable and provides a
>>> plugin architecture to allow the other components to be pluggable.
>>> For some time Naked Objects, the framework, has elicited interest from
>>> "early adopters", but our community remains small.  We're hoping that Apache
>>> will provide a platform by which we can grow our community into the "early
>>> majority".  We can demonstrate the commitment to do this (two books have
>>> been written on Naked Objects).  Until recently there were just two main
>>> committers, both freelancer developers based in the UK.  Since then we have
>>> picked up three new committers (in Sweden, USA and South Africa), two
>>> directly attributable to the publication of the second of these books in Dec
>>> 2009.
>>>  From our understanding of the Apache process, our proposal will need some
>>> mentors and a sponsor.  Vincent Massol (Maven) has already offered, as has
>>> James Carman (Wicket).  We're hoping that this post might interest a few
>>> more, in which case we'll post a formal project proposal.
>>> Thanks for reading this, looking forward to your replies.
>>> Dan Haywood
>>> Robert Matthews
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