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From Michael Wechner <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)
Date Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:41:11 GMT
Emmanuel LŽcharny wrote:
> Michael Wechner a écrit :
>> Stefane Fermigier schrieb:
>>> OK, I personally believe this is in contradiction with the first 
>>> commandment of the Apache Way:
>>> "*Community over Code* is a frequent saying that exemplifies ASF 
>>> projects. Community uses Openness and Merit, expressed through 
>>> Collaborative and Consensus driven work, to build lasting projects 
>>> that use a Pragmatic License. While a diverse community is a 
>>> requirement for every ASF project, we also expect people to 
>>> contribute as Individuals, and wear appropriate Hats."
>> I cannot see any contradiction. Can you explain where exactly you see 
>> the contradiction?
> Hi,
> I just grab the description of both projects :
> "OpenCMIS will deliver a Java implementation of the OASIS CMIS 
> specification."
> "Apache Chemistry is a generic Java language implementation of the 
> upcoming OASIS CMIS specification. "
> I barely see how two communities working on two projects with the very 
> same target can't collaborate and form the best possible community to 
> fulfill this target, leveraging the great people from both of the 
> current project...
> This is where I see a contradiction : it seems like there is some 
> divergence on the technical side, which is not really the Incubator 
> concern. What is important to us is that a community is built, because 
> it's the guarantee for a long term existence for the project. We don't 
> have the resources and time to setup a darwinian process here :)

I am not sure what exactly you mean with "we", but I would argue that 
the CMS community out there is rather large and has enough
potential to provide contributors for both projects.

It's up to each incubator project itself to build a healthy community 
and AFAIK these rules are clear and in particular what it takes to leave 
the incubator.
So either a project will make it or not. I am assuming this is what the 
incubator is good for, right?


> my 2 cts ...
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