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From Jukka Zitting <>
Subject How to shorten the duration of incubation (Was: Insanity...)
Date Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:56:52 GMT

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
> My point above was the Board, at least in the past(*), has *not* been
> happy about the average duration.

The way I see it, there are three main things we could do to shorten
the average duration of incubation:

1) Relax the exit criteria: Especially the diversity requirement is a
major barrier for many projects. There have been various calls to
relax the diversity requirements, but so far I see no consensus on

2) Tighten the entry criteria: Many of the podlings that end up
failing or taking a long time here are new projects that start from
scratch or from previously closed codebases with weak or no existing
project communities. We could significantly improve the average
duration of incubation if we only accepted mature open source

3) Increase the amount of mentoring: The lack of mentor time and
better (not necessarily more) supporting documentation gives
unnecessary administrational and procedural headaches (failed release
votes, etc.) to many podlings.

Without more volunteers there's not much we can do about 3, which
leaves the entry and exit criteria as the variables we can control.

I personally think that the exit criteria are good as they are (in
hindsight, Abdera is a good example of a project that graduated with
barely enough diversity of active committers), so if we do want to
make the Incubator "work faster" my suggestion would be to start by
raising our entry criteria. One way to do that would be to start
requiring the three mentors to show higher levels of personal
commitment than what we currently ask for.


Jukka Zitting

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