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From "William A. Rowe, Jr." <>
Subject Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
Date Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:51:11 GMT
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Martijn Dashorst
> <> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz <> wrote:
>>> To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and
>>> necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole.
>> Nope... The whole IPMC has been tasked with oversight. The mentors are
>> proxies for the whole IPMC.
> You can't have it both ways.  By approving the proposal, the IPMC
> delegates its oversight authority to the mentors.  The IPMC then
> confirms that the proper process was followed when it votes for
> graduation.  The mentors can ask for pre-approval for certain
> 'waivers' like Greg is asking for - but it's unfair for a non-mentor
> to try to tell a podling what it can or can not do.  -- justin

Whoa.  Have you really been absent from Incubator for this long?

Granted, each mentor is only -one- voice, each IPMC member is only -one-
voice, with equal standing in the Incubator PMC and as ambassadors to the
PPMC efforts.

But a non-mentor has no less responsibility or authority to help work out
a problem than a mentor does.  Get down off the high horse before you hurt
yourself ;-)

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