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From Mohammad Nour El-Din <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Libcloud Project
Date Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:01:46 GMT
Hi Paul...

   Allow me to dis-agree with ya :), cause this could be very
beneficial to any IT Operations Admins. I used to work in IBM Egypt
and you take a suitable time to make up an environment and make it
operations or when you add new hardware and want it to be operational
with other machines. CloudComputing is also about automating the IT
Staff operations and this is what I am doing with my current job
working as out-sourced Software Engineer for Sun microsystems
developing in their cloud computing platform called QLayer. From
QLayer PoV you manage all your physical resources as one big machine
and then you create machine upon request that only consume the
required resources using a very simple User Interface even the user
can have no big idea about the details of the specific operations that
should be done to build up this environment. So IMHO I think something
like LibCloud can be a very good building block to build environments
creation automation that can help ASF Infra admins. And even if it is
possible, using LibCloud and what we can build upon, ASF can provide
IaaS (Infrastructure As A Service) so ASF can have like farms of
machines and we provide building virtual environments to customers
which can provide a source of money to help ASF provide and help more
open source projects.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Paul Querna <> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Nick Kew <> wrote:
>> On 27 Oct 2009, at 06:59, Paul Querna wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I would like to propose incubating the existing Libcloud project to
>>> join the ASF:
>> +1.  Looks interesting!
>> There seem to be more than enough volunteers to mentor already,
>> so I won't put myself forward for that.  But I'll certainly watch with
>> interest!
>> From your POV as king of infra, what uses of this might you
>> envisage
> From an ASF Infra POV, cloud computing in the public hosting providers
> sense, doesn't make sense for us.  Since we generally only pay for
> Hardware, and our BW/Power/Rackspace are all 'free' at most of our
> hosting locations, and even amazon's cheapest machines cannot compare
> to this.
> I do believe there is oppurtunity within our own machines to better
> utlitilize resources on many machines, and in the long run it will
> make sense to run certain ASF services 'on the cloud', but I don't see
> it changing super quickly for the ASF Infrastructure itself.
> Thanks,
> Paul
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