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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject Helping small(er) projects find appropriate homes ...
Date Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:32:11 GMT
Generic thread, keeping the Sanselan discussion focused in its own thread.

Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>> May be. But please consider the following:
>> - Commons won't be able to catch them all. More precisely: If you dilute
>>   commons community too much, then you'll just make it another umbrella
>>   project. It already *is* big, with so many components.
> Commons should not be a dumping place...

I believe that there is widespread agreement with you that Commons should
not be a dumping ground.  We are only taking about Commons being a
destination when there is a fit and desire to take on the component.  And it
is not the only such place, as I will raise, below.

>> - Having commons as the target doesn't imply the necessity of a special
>>   commons@incubator or whatever subproject.

Separate discussion.

>>  A very reasonable alternative might be that the Incubator decides "Ok,
>>  project did its housework and could leave the Incubator, apart from
>>  community issues. Why not offer it to some project as a subproject?"
>>  And this project *could* include Commons.

Again, we need to be careful not to make any project a dumping ground, but
we can and should take a positive look at: "Do we have an existing project
where this too small to survive on its own community can, and is mutually
willing to, properly merge?"

>> I am aware that this would likely need to change the Incubator policy in
>> advance

I don't see why it is any sort of policy change.  As Niclas has also noted:

> FtpServer was too small (1) to attract critical mass while in Incubator.
> I (as Mentor) tried to be 'inventive' and asked if MINA folks would be
> interested, which they were, and [it eventually became part of MINA]

Likewise, Yoko was graduated in parts into other TLPs.

	--- Noel

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