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From Santiago Gala <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator
Date Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:55:02 GMT
El dom, 12-04-2009 a las 12:35 +0800, Niclas Hedhman escribió:
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Niall Pemberton
> <> wrote:
> > You're insinuating too much here. Simply put the commons PMC would
> > want to see committers in action before making them full blown Commons
> > committers. This is no different from any of the other incubations
> > that then graduate into an existing TLP. There are no boundaries
> > between components in Commons - all committers have svn access to all
> > components.
> Ok, I just deleted a long elaboration over the Open Participation
> Software for Java ( community experiment, but I don't
> think it would be appreciated. Instead, I say this;
> Letting everyone have write access to all Commons sub-projects, is not
> an ASF requirement. You may distinguish between the sandbox and the

And there are *social* barriers too. For instance, in
every committer, by design, has access to the whole portals repository,
i.e., to pluto/jetspeed/common... repositories, but a, say, jetspeed
committer arriving from nowhere to commit code in pluto would surely
face -1. Even myself arriving from inactivity to patch something would
get extra scrutiny and would have to justify carefully what I did unless
I commit some really obvious small fix to a bug, and even so.


> rest. And you may give people coming in with the code, commit rights
> to sandbox while observing and teaching them what Apache is all about.
> And you may have a unspoken rule of no releases from sandbox, as an
> incentive of people to sharpen up.
> Although I generally agree with Robert's sentiment, I don't think the
> Comcubator will lessen the burden on the Incubator PMC. Not
> necessarily by intent, but that there will be individuals who will
> want to help out, that are currently helping out on Incubator, thus
> thinning time for everything else.
> Cheers

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