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From Robert Burrell Donkin <>
Subject Re: Suspending Projects
Date Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:46:16 GMT
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Niclas Hedhman <> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jukka Zitting <> wrote:
>> River is another long-term incubating project that seems to have lost
>> its energy. However, there's still some remaining activity and as a
>> mentor I'm putting some effort there, hoping to achieve a similar
>> revival as we've seen in PDFBox. Niclas is another active mentor. So
>> for now we'll keep trying.
> The inertia is enormous, and I personally think that only a drastic,
> disruptive change of the codebase (i.e. a ver 3.0, similar to what Roy
> was talking about @ AC-EU-2008) is necessary to get a (not the)
> community going. Existing codebase is too good, noone wants big
> changes, people who understand reported bugs are AWOL, and no vision
> for the future.

i've been observing this for a while and have some ideas.  maybe we
could all get together for a couple of hours at ApacheConEU.

- robert

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