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From Robert Burrell Donkin <>
Subject Re: What should be the consequences of missing required Incubator Reports?
Date Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:53:02 GMT
On 2/17/09, Craig L Russell <> wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:58 PM, David Crossley wrote:
>> If we keep relying on mentors, then we are not
>> training the podlings in the ASF way. We are actually
>> training them to leave it all up to someone else.
> I believe that while a podling is getting organized (first three
> months) it's unlikely that they will "get" reporting, and during that
> time, the mentors must step up and show the way.
> But I agree that one or more of the podling community needs to want to
> take on the responsibilities of chairing the PMC ultimately, and
> should not depend on the mentors. One of the criteria for graduation
> should be the readiness of the PPMC to become a PMC with all the
> reporting that that involves.

I think that it's both important and useful that the content is
created by the community. But asking Mentors to be responsible for
seeing that a report was submitted probably makes sense. With my IPMC
hat on, I would like to know when a mentor has submitted a report on
the podling.

For example, I would have liked to give the XAP community up to the
deadline to submit a report, and if they failed to do so write up a
report of my own as a mentor.


> Craig
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System
> 408 276-5638
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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