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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: What should be the consequences of missing required Incubator Reports?
Date Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:03:18 GMT
David Crossley wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I had asked Dave if he would work on [a Marvin-like script], but I don't
know that anything
> > got finished.  Anyone want to take a shot at it?
> Upayavira suggested something useful in another thread.
> I can do that - when i find the time.

Thanks.  To be clear, you're not the Dave to whom I referred.  And I
appreciate your offer.  :-)

> I actually think that reporting is up to each project, not the mentors.
> If we keep relying on mentors, then we are not training the podlings in
the ASF way.

I agree that the community is responsible, and have said so.  If the
Commuity doesn't step up, I don't know that I would want the Mentor to write
the report for them; certainly not a glowing one.  The Commuity needs to
learn to follow ASF procedure, and the Board requires quarterly reports.
But projects come to us in part to build and maintain a vibrant community,
not just to participate in our brand and infrastructure, and active Mentors
can help with that, and advise the PMC when there are issues.  If a Mentor
makes a note that the Community hasn't file a report, then at least we know
that someone is paying attention and participating.

At least that's how I see it.

> Why do people need reminding? The procedure and when each month report is
due, is crystal clear

Why do we have Marvin?  People forget, get distracted, have other things to

	--- Noel

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