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From Martijn Dashorst <>
Subject Re: Mentor responsibilities (Was ... Rant)
Date Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:04:33 GMT
However, if that means actively committing, fixing bugs, then that is
not what I've signed up for. I don't have a vested interest in the
actual code of most if not all podlings.

Guiding discussions, ensuring that the right things are done on the
correct lists, reports get submitted on time, accounts are created,
status page is maintained, that the community is activated, etc. is
what the Mentor's responsibilities are.

We want to incubate self governing, open, meritocratic and active
communities. Mentors can guide communities towards self governance,
openness and meritocracy. Sometimes Mentors can even help with
activity, but it is the responsibility of the incubating community to
do the work necessary for graduation.


On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jukka Zitting <> wrote:
> Hi,
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Niclas Hedhman <> wrote:
>> [...] I am also dismayed by many Mentors are quick to jump into becoming
>> a Mentor, but not able to follow up on their responsibilities. It seems
>> that many thinks that 'hanging around' and have an opinion every now
>> and then is enough 'effort'.
> Agreed. An ineffective mentor helps nobody.
> The way I see it, mentoring requires considerably more work than does
> for example being a member (in many cases even the chair) of a normal
> PMC. It's not just about observing the podlings (even that seems to be
> lost on some mentors) but actually working with the projects to guide
> them towards graduation.
> BR,
> Jukka Zitting
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