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From "Aidan Skinner" <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
Date Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:21:32 GMT
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <> wrote:

> I'm totaly agree with Andrus.
> I think that AutoDeploy is complement of Puppet :
> - Puppet can be in charge of the application server core installation, HTTP server, etc
> - AutoDeploy comes after to deploy final application in the application server

They have fairly different use cases, and are often handled by
different teams. httpd, the J2EE container etc are normally supplied
as part of the OS, the app itself is typically developed in house by a
team who don't really want to need to know about rpm/deb/pkg/tgz etc.
In larger installations the base OS is often maintained by sysops, and
the application itself by an application support team[1].

When I was working on ZENworks for Linux (nee Red Carpet) we looked
into doing this and it's substantially different. The use cases are
often quite divergent and doing it all in one tool is difficult.

I see AutoDeploy fitting into a toolbox that might contain Puppet,
func, cobbler, hyperic etc nicely.

- Aidan

[1] I'm not saying that this is necessarily a good model, just that
it's a common one ;)
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