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From Andrus Adamchik <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
Date Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:58:23 GMT
Hi JB,

A very interesting problem you are addressing with AutoDeploy. JEE  
deployment tools that I've seen to date don't scale too well, so this  
area can use lots of improvement. I've developed a similar system for  
a big site of one of our customers, with the main goal to manage a mid- 
size cluster (10-100 app server nodes) running Jetty. The main idea is  
the same - write an XML descriptor to describe the cluster layout and  
app destinations, and then write the tools around that descriptor  
(deployment, monitoring and what not). But of course the tools is  
where YMMV, and I am happy to see someone else building such tools :-)

I downloaded AutoDeploy-0.5.3 (BTW, noticed that the jar files are all  
duplicated under lib/ and target/ increasing the size of the download  
to 140MB. Poking around the code now. In the meantime a few questions  
- do you have a demo system somewhere that would allow to play with  
the UI without deploying the app? Also are there any diagrams on the  
deployment flow implemented in AutoDeploy?


On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to introduce my Apache Scrum proposal.
> Abstract
>   Apache Scrum is a complete environment manager and deployer  
> including JEE applications
>   and resources.
>   It's a perfect complement to continuous integration by adding  
> continuous deployment.
>   The whole software factory chain is cover and the JEE  
> administrator managed all environments
>   is a secure and safe way, whatever the underlying application  
> server is.
> Proposal
>   Apache Scrum provides two components :
>   - Apache Scrum agent are installed localy on the application  
> server server
>   - Apache Scrum console controls and manages agents, allowing the  
> JEE administrator to update
>     all environments from a central web tool.
> Background
>   Currently, Apache Scrum is named BuildProcess AutoDeploy (

> ).
>   The development has begun 4 years ago and several release have  
> been already provided.
>   AutoDeploy is used in several companies like Fimasys ( 
> ), Vodacom South Africa
>   (, Mayo Clinic USA (http:// 
>, etc.
> Rationale
>   The JEE environments administration is heavy cost task with a high  
> level on human action. It suffers :
>   - a different set of script or actions dependning of the  
> application server used (JBoss, Websphere, Weblogic, etc)
>   - a high level of risk due to human action (for exemple, an  
> administrator can forget to deploy a JDBC datasource,
>     or forget to change an application specific configuration file)
>   - the upgrade process can be long (depending of the applications  
> complexity)
>   - most of resources are stored localy to the application server,  
> not in a central repository
>   Apache Scrum securise the environment deployment and cover the  
> whole JEE scope (EAR/WAR archives, JDBC datasources,
>   JMS queues, JMS topics, classloader policy, etc) in a uniq way  
> whatever the underlying application server (it heavely
>   uses JMX to interact with compatible middlewares).
> Initial Goals
>   When I have begun AutoDeploy, my first goal was to provide several  
> application server JMX plugins. But quickly, I have
>   seen that multi-application servers support was only a small part  
> of the JEE administration need.
>   That's why I have extended AutoDeploy to provide agents and a  
> central console. Using the console, several JEE administrators
>   can use a central tools to manage all environments in a  
> collaborative and secure way.
> Current Status
>   Currently, AutoDeploy provides two branches :
>   - the 0.5.x branch (with the 0.5.4 lastest release) is the current  
> stable branche
>   - the 0.6.x branch is target to become Apache Scrum
> Community
>   Currently the project contains two contributors and around 50 users.
>   Thanks to the popularity of ASF, the purpose is increase the  
> number of contributors to improve the functionnality cover
>   of Apache Scrum.
> Core Developers
>   AutoDeploy/Apache Scrum was founded by Jean-Baptiste Onofré in  
> 2004. Mike Duffy, Vodacom JEE architect, contributes since
>   2005. Several contributors have provided patches on the project.
> Open Source
>   Since the beginning, AutoDeploy was a Open Source project using  
> GPL license.
>   Apache Scrum will use the Apache 2 license.
> Relationships with Other Apache Products
>   AutoDeploy/Apache Scrum heavely uses Apache products such as :
>   - lot of jakarta commons (espcailly VFS)
>   - maven/continuum for build/continuous integration
>   - xerces/xalan for XML manipulation
>   - etc ...
> I hope that Apache Scrum provide a kind of interest to you :) and  
> really hope that the ASF approve this project.
> I think that the core product is efficient due to the number of  
> users on the current stable version. Joining ASF will increase
> the visibility of Scrum and increase the number of contributors, for  
> sure.
> If you have need more informations, or if you have some questions,  
> don't hesitate to contact me.
> Thanks in advance :)
> Regards
> JB
> [1] BuildProcess AutoDeploy (Apache Scrum) :
> -- 
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré (Nanthrax)
> BuildProcess/AutoDeploy Project Leader
> PGP : 17D4F086
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