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From "Dennis Howlett" <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] ESME - The Enterprise Social Messaging Experiment
Date Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:01:13 GMT
@sanjiva - in most work situations, people will 'know' at least a
handful of folk in their immediate 'network' which can provide a
starting point. Tags is one method of discovery as are 'words' used in

FYI - there is a design discussion underway re: the current client.

D -:)

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<> wrote:
> (FYI this conversation has no impact on the acceptance or not of the
> proposal .. just my curiosity. So if you feel there's a better place for
> this conversation please point me there.)
> When you say its really a tool to discover right people can you elaborate on
> what that means? Is there some protocol or do you tag yourself with stuff
> and then others discover you or ??
> I did visit the site and log in with my OpenID but that didn't make any more
> sense; looks like the twitterfox client I use :).
> Thanks,
> Sanjiva.
> Dennis Howlett wrote:
>> @sanjiva - I'll field this as the 'positioning' guy.
>> You 'can' regard ESME as a 'Twitter for Enterprise' but we prefer not
>> to do so because we then get tangled in all sorts of arguments and
>> comparisons that deflect from how we see the service.
>> The premise upon which we started this project was that Twitter style
>> services are generic and have no intrinsic purpose other than to
>> provide a flow of data. We wanted to provide context and purpose
>> because that is what enterprise understands.
>> In our early demo iterations, we therefore positioned this as a tool
>> that helps both the discovery of the *right* people within distributed
>> networks who can help solve problems, lend advice or point in the
>> direction of others in a 'behind the firewall' setting.
>> We created use cases to support that idea using SAP specific business
>> processes and then showing different ways of using the tool with
>> different clients such as web and WebDynpro (SAP specific).
>> I invite you to visit the blog: (it MAY be
>> slightly flaky as we've just moved servers and it hasn't been fully
>> tested) where team members have posted a variety of information on use
>> cases, client side code examples etc.
>> Hope that helps.
>> Thanks
>> D -:)
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> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;
> Member; Apache Software Foundation;
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
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