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From "Martin Cooper" <>
Subject Re: Request for assistance in incubating an Alchemy project
Date Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:55:48 GMT
Honestly, I wonder whether it is worth pursuing this at all. The proposal
has been posted to this list five times in the last month, with only a
single response. That doesn't fill me with confidence, to say the least. If
there's so little interest in bringing it in at all, that doesn't seem to
augur well for a successful incubation.

I wonder, too, at the doggedness in trying to bring it here, rather than
simply setting up shop at Google Code or the like, and moving forward with
it there.

Martin Cooper

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Jihoon Kim <> wrote:

> Hi!
> My name is Jihoon Kim and I was hoping if I could get some guidance in
> incubating a project. I have read through various Wikipages and I do
> have some idea of what must be done to incubate a project, move it to
> a state of a podling, and finally have it promoted. But though I do
> have a rough understanding of the process, I was hoping to get Mentors
> and Champions in helping us implement them.
> The project that I had planned is Alchemy project, which will allow
> additional Web 2.0 technologies as JSF component libraries. First set
> of component libraries to include within this project is the bridge
> between Flex and JSF, as can be seen within the following JIRA link
> Initially, I thought to contribute it as a patch to MyFaces, but since
> the size of the contribution was rather large and I was the sole
> developer, MyFaces PMCs have directed me to the Incubator to incubate
> it as component library under Alchemy project. Then when the project
> has matured and have gathered enough community members to sustain the
> maintenance of the code, they said they would consider having it as a
> subproject under the MyFaces main project.
> In a nutshell, the contribution is to give users capability in
> creating Flex components as JSF components. So users users would
> create the components as normal JSF components and the contribution
> will create the necessary SWF files and etcetera and link the values
> of the components back to the managed beans using JSON+JavaScript and
> ActionScript. So all users would need is a Jar of the component
> library and they would be able to create Flex applications by creating
> normal JSF components. The contribution will then bind the data from
> managed beans to components within the created SWF file.
> Further detail regarding the project has been written up within the
> following proposal :
> Current members who are interested in participating in this project are :
>    myself [Jihoon Kim]
>    Hazem Saleh [committer within MyFaces]
>    Glauco P. Gomes [developer within MyFaces]
>    Matthias Wessendorf [who has suggested in helping out as a
> mentor/champion]
>    my coworkers
> I think that this integration will be an interesting one that users
> can use to create Web 2.0 applications beyond the method of
> JavaScript. Also since I think that this is one of the areas that has
> lots of potential, I think with time there will be additional
> components/ideas related to the contribution that will be brought
> forth [i.e. possible handling of requirement of flash in user's
> browsers {rendering it as a Dojo, HTML, or Flash depending on user's
> browser setting}].
> During the discussion of this contribution within the MyFaces mailing
> list, many have shown positive interest in the project providing good
> sign that the components libraries will be used by developer
> community. Also the integration will possibly reduce number of
> discussion in various mailing list of "JSF vs Flex" and will allow
> developers to create simple Flex application without purchasing
> FlexBuilder and learning of the technology.
> MyFaces PMCs have confirmed that there aren't any legal issues for the
> Flex and JSF integration by pinging the legal mailing list.
> Thank you!!!
> --
> Sincerely,
> Ji Hoon Kim
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