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From "Robert Burrell Donkin" <>
Subject Re: cut the crap
Date Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:22:22 GMT
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Roy T. Fielding <> wrote:
> I've wasted too much time today on the stupid IP Clearance template
>  that insists on asking a bunch of irrelevant questions about
>  decisions that the Incubator is not responsible for making.
>  The required IP clearance questions should be:
>    Date:
>    Identify the Contribution:
>    Identify the Contributor(s):
>    What are the filenames for the applicable
>      software grant(s):
>      Corporate CLA(s):
>      Individual CLA(s):
>    Location of initial import:
>    Destination PMC:
>  That's it.

pretty much agree

the VOTE link is useful but maybe the incubator doesn't need to check
that a PMC is conducting it's affairs correctly. not clear how much
oversight the board expects the incubator to perform for IP

>  Licensing the artifacts, removal of dependencies, changing headers,
>  and checking for product trade names are all activities of the PMC
>  before a release is made, NOT before an import.  Committer access
>  is a responsibility of the destination PMC.  Prior distribution
>  rights are irrelevant.  Where on earth did this crap come from?

dunno. stuff only gets fixed once someone notices it's wrong. it's CTR
so feel free to remove the cruft.

>  The template reads like a friggin nanny's club treatise on the
>  correct angle to wipe one's ass.  The only reason we have this
>  form is to record the connection between grant and initial commit.
>  Don't waste our time with anything else.


IMHO writing documentation is tough and it's hard to target the
audience correctly. probably an annotated template would work better
(if anyone has some spare cycles to implement).

- robert

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