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From "Ted Husted" <hus...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Approve Apache XAP 0.5.0 Release
Date Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:53:57 GMT
So, where do we stand on the vote? Is the vote still open, or are we
going to resolve XAP-579 (source and binary builds) and try again with
a 0.5.1 ?

I've been reviewing the 0.5.0 build. I'm not sure all of the samples
work, because I'm not sure what all of them are suppose to do :), but
I would like to see XAP move toward another release, and work to build
the type of transparent, robust community we need for graduation.

-Ted.

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Bob Buffone <rbuffone@nexaweb.com> wrote:
> Sebb,
>
>  Those files you noticed were where changed during manufacturing and not
>  checked in to the tag.  I have corrected this situation and now the
>  distribution and the Tag match completely.
>
>  There is now a Jira issue that notes the changes needed to the
>  manufacturing process.  I agree that two distribution files would
>  simplify things for users of the XAP codebase.
>
>  Bob (Buffone)
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:29 PM
>  To: general@incubator.apache.org
>  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Approve Apache XAP 0.5.0 Release
>
>  On 13/03/2008, Bob Buffone <rbuffone@nexaweb.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >
>  > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:01 PM
>  >  To: general@incubator.apache.org
>  >  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Approve Apache XAP 0.5.0 Release
>  >
>  >  On 11/03/2008, Bob Buffone <rbuffone@nexaweb.com> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:23 AM
>  >  >  To: general@incubator.apache.org
>  >  >  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Approve Apache XAP 0.5.0 Release
>  >  >
>  >  >  On 10/03/2008, Bob Buffone <rbuffone@nexaweb.com> wrote:
>  >  >  > Incubator PM,
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  The XAP team has put together a new release of the project
>  (0.5.0)
>  >  >  and
>  >  >  >  it has been approved by the xap-dev list with 8 (+1s) and 0
>  >  (others).
>  >  >  We
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >It would be helpful to have a link to the vote thread.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > http://www.g8l.us/49f
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  are now asking the Incubator PM to approve this release so we
>  can
>  >  >  >  distribute it.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  The release candidate has been posted at:
>  >  >  >  http://people.apache.org/~bbuffone/xap-release/0.5.0-incubator/
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Which SVN tag was used for the release?
>  >  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > XAP_0.5.0
>  >  >
>  >
>  >  >This seems to contain lots of files that are not in the archive:
>  >  >
>  >  >unittests/
>  >
>  >
>  > Is used to run the unit tests on the project and we do not include
>  them.
>  >
>
>  These are normally included with the source used to create the binary
>  archive.
>
>  >
>  >  >JSDoc-1.9.9.2/
>  >
>  >
>  > Creates the documentation for the project and is also not included.
>  >
>
>  This is often included in the source archive.
>
>  >
>  >  >
>  >  Also, some of the files in the archive are different from the tagged
>  >  files, e.g.
>  >
>  >  build-manufacturing.xml has two different versions.
>  >  build.bat does not seem to be the same file at all
>  >  buildUtil$py.class
>  >
>
>  Why are the above files different?
>
>  >
>  > There seem to be a lot of class files in SVN - this is not usual.
>  These
>  >  files are not build from source but used in the build process when
>  the
>  >  JavaScript file concatenation and compression is performed.
>  >
>
>  If they are executed, why not create a jar that contains them?
>
>  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Where is the KEYS file containing the signer's public key?
>  >  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/xap/KEYS
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Is there a RAT report?
>  >  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > There is one, I have put it at
>  >  >
>  >
>  http://people.apache.org/~bbuffone/xap-release/0.5.0-incubator/rat_outpu
>  >  >  t.txt
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Normally there are separate source and binary archives.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > Being that this is an Ajax toolkit, we have included all the source
>  >  >  files in the distribution to allow people to be able to customize
>  the
>  >  >  application loading profile of their application.  Users can
>  either
>  >  load
>  >  >  one large file upfront and make zero JavaScript requests later, or
>  a
>  >  >  smaller upfront file and more JavaScript requests later.
>  >  >
>  >
>  >  >But does the archive need to contain the build files as well?
>  >
>  >
>  > The structure of the distribution file is as follows.
>  >
>  >  dist - Contains the application structure a developer would need to
>  be
>  >  used as a starting point for developing a XAP application.
>  >  docs - These would be the documentation files.
>  >  samples - These are the sample showing people different features.
>  >  source - Yes? These are all the source files that people use to build
>  >  the xapcode.js files from the source included in the project.  So I
>  >  guess in a way we could separate these files into another
>  (distribution
>  >  file) and label it "-source.(zip)|(tar.gz).
>  >
>  >  Would that make sense?
>
>  Normally the binary jar contains the runtime stuff, and the source jar
>  contains what would be needed to create the binary jar.
>
>  Samples and doc are usually in the binary jar.
>
>  It looks like you have two classes of developers here:
>  - developers (i.e. users) using XAP to create a XAP application
>  - developers maintaining XAP.
>
>  A user would normally expect to download only the binary archive (plus
>  any required dependencies).
>
>  >
>  >  >There seem to be several copies of some files, e.g.
>  >  >
>  >  >dojo.js.uncompressed.js
>  >  >custom_rhino.jar
>  >  >flash6_gateway.fla
>  >
>  >
>  > There will be one of these for each of the directories (samples, dist,
>  >  source)
>
>  Can't these be loaded from a common path?
>
>  >
>  >
>  >  >>Is it necessary to include both xapcore.js and xapcore.js.gz?
>  >  >>Similarly for the other .js/.js.gz file pairs.
>  >
>  >
>  > It is necessary to include both of the files, it also the developer to
>  >  use either in their application.  We are including the three built
>  >  files.
>  >
>  >  xapcode.uncompressed.js - All JavaScript files concatenated in order
>  of
>  >  dependencies.
>  >  xapcore.js - all files concatenated and compressed
>  >  xapcore.js.gz - files concatenated, compressed and g-zipped
>  >
>  >
>  >  >>Should the two "Thumbs.db" files be included? They look like
>  Windows
>  >  >>system files.
>  >
>  >
>  > The two thumb files should not be included in the release this is a
>  >  mistake and thanks for catching that.
>  >
>  >
>  >  >  >  Please cast your votes:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  [ ] +1 Release is approved
>  >  >  >  [ ] -1 Veto the release (provide specific comments)
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Thank you,
>  >  >  >  Bob (Buffone)
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
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HTH, Ted
http://husted.com/ted/blog/

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