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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Re: Statements from Qpid mentors would help me decide... [WAS Re: [VOTE] Apache Qpid Graduation as TLP]
Date Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:32:18 GMT
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I understand. Please do keep up the good work and continue turning users into devs. that's
what counts end of the day
and that's what's exactly we look for in a project that's trying to get out of incubation.
We've seen so many fail
(example TSIK, WSIL4J, EWS, MIRAE etc...) Please allow us a bit of room to be skeptical. It's
excellent that everyone is
chiming in. It's a good sign.


Carl Trieloff wrote:
| Davanum Srinivas wrote:
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|> Carl,
|> If you take a step back and think about it...this process has been
|> like "pulling teeth". Don't you think there's room
|> for all the folks on Qpid to be more open and forthcoming given this
|> experience?
| I am sorry if that has been the case, but we also need to respect
| individuals. Let me add a few comments that might help. Over
| the course of the project we have received large contributions from at
| least 3+ legally independents. They include Rupert Smith (.NET),
| Colin Crist (Hermes integration / use cases), Tomas Restrepo (.NET). We
| also have 3 independents that have that have contributed
| significantly but may or may not be termed legally independent Bhupendra
| Bhardwaj (Java mgmt), Kevin Smith (TLS), Steven Shaw
| (Java). Depends if you want to rant or not.
| Over and above that we have no one company that has controlled the
| commit count as Martin has clearly pointed out. Additionally we
| have quite a few active independents currently on the project as Rajith
| has pointed out that will most like be voted on as committer if they
| follow through. All that said, we do have a set of committers that don't
| disclose there employer. Aside from that this should be enough to
| indicate that the project is well manged, welcoming and diverse, as the
| project is not overly dependent on one company. It should also
| be clear that we have or more than at least legally required number of
| parties in the project.
| We have seen a pattern of independents show and help create a feature
| they need and then become less active. I assume this is a pattern
| for those that can't write open source for a living but they are highly
| valued part of the Qpid community.
| personally I like people to speak for themselves, as that shows more
| than one face to the project. So maybe the info has not been concise but
| at least you know that we have a great passionate team and great mentors
| on this project
| kind regards,
| Carl.
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