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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: Policy on Initial Committership
Date Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:19:14 GMT

> I realize we may have created some difficulties in merging two existing
> projects - Celtix from ObjectWeb and Xfire from Codehaus

> But we are nonetheless simply trying to do the right thing, not
> stacking the deck to control the project.

OK, let's please stop right here.  At least in this discussion, no one has
said anything about that, at least to my notice.  I intentionally renamed
these threads to get away from CeltiXFire, and a number of the issues that
I've mentiond in this thread have had nothing to do with CeltiXFire.  For
example, as far as I know, we didn't have a third party company stuffing
their employees onto "someone else's" initial committer list.  But these
things have happened in the past.

As I just wrote to Berin, a major goal of my proposing some changes to the
bootstrap is to help manage the Initial Committer List FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE INCOMING COMMUNITY.  I never suggested anything about limiting
legitimate members of the incoming community to participate, and would
consider such a thing to be very very wrong.  I want to give the incoming
community the opportunity to decide for itself whom those people are.  And
the "sign-up" sheet approach has been somewhat of a problem in that regard.
So my proposal was about replacing the sign-up sheet with a process where
the people involved in the community told us whom should be a Committer.

The whole thing about binding votes is a technical matter, and can largely
be ignored if the votes reflect the will of the community.

	--- Noel

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