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From "Justin Erenkrantz" <>
Subject Re: PPMCs [was Re: what are required for contributing to release management]
Date Sun, 01 Oct 2006 17:34:59 GMT
On 10/1/06, Dan Diephouse <> wrote:
> I am pretty philosophically against making every committer PPMC members.
> Apache is meritocracy based and IMO it makes much more sense to start
> with the mentors on the PPMC and have committers voted on based on their
> leadership. There may be many people on the incubation proposal or who
> have committed code to a project in the past, but an additional level of
> leadership is needed [3]. Not everyone may have the necessary leadership
> skills, and to presuppose they do because they have contributed good
> code, is IMO, a mistake.

I don't agree at all.  If they contribute code, they merit a say in the
direction of the project.  To do otherwise is to exclude them from the
community.  Remember that only folks on the PPMC have a vote: a committer
does not have any say or vote in the project at all.

The critical aim of the PPMC is to create a self-managing project.  By
excluding everyone from that process except for mentors, you will not be
teaching the new people how the project should be managed.

In the early days of the podlngs, the mentors should have proportionally
more say in how things proceed; but in order to graduate to TLP status, the
PPMC must be able to demonstrate the ability to manage itself - and probably
the contributions from the mentors should be excluded from that
determination - i.e. is the PPMC without the mentor able to govern itself.
-- justin

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