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From Mads Toftum <>
Subject Re: Checkpoint on Harmony (Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation)
Date Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:06:38 GMT
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 06:32:04AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> If we can reach consensus (with the exception of Mads who doesn't want 
> to see Harmony here, and Roy for other good reasons due to my 
> stupidity), I'd like to then move to the ratification vote.
I'll withdraw most of my reservations after having seen the comments
from Leo and Stefano.
I'll stick with my original objection that I'd rather not have seen a
project aming to do what Harmony is doing at the ASF, but putting that
aside, it appears that Harmony is otherwise in a lot better shape than
some of the other things that have been railroaded through the
As Stefano mentioned, he'd expected something like 3 years in the
incubator and to be honest, so had I and I would have been much more
comfortable if that's how long it had taken. The longer the window for
trouble to brew, the higher the chance for having gotten through all
that. But on the other hand, Harmony is a different type of project and
deserves a different set of standards to be measured against. At least
this time we do not have to worry about someone with a business plan
pushing to get the brand/graduation.
As for my comments with regards to Sun and their opensourcing of java, I
sincerely hope that they opt for a model that will make nothing more
than a historical curiosity.
So fwiw here's my s/-1/+1/ on letting Harmony graduate from the
incubator and I'll also add that in the case of Harmony specifically, I
find the pushing for a release nothing more than delay tactics (a delay
I wouldn't object to, but a release in itself seems rather pointless at
this time).


Mads Toftum

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