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From "Matthias Wessendorf" <>
Subject Re: Graduate Synapse - was Re: [VOTE] Release Synapse
Date Fri, 07 Jul 2006 04:09:23 GMT
Hey Paul-

I just looked at your page [1] and saw a "DONE" before the task

If applicable, make sure that any associated name does not already
exist and check to be sure that the name is not
already trademarked for an existing software product.

I'd like to do the same for the "adffaces" incubation, which has voted
a new name (Apache Trinidad)



On 7/6/06, Garrett Rooney <> wrote:
> On 7/6/06, Carl Trieloff <> wrote:
> >
> > I am spending many hours working through Apache processes so do you mind
> > if I ask a few questions:
> >
> > For the graduation,
> >
> > a.) what are the demographics of the commiters added to the project
> > in the community building and how/is this considered in graduation?
> > b.) if there are committers on the project that have binding votes are
> > these considered
> > differently to binding votes external to the project, as I would expect
> > the project votes would
> > always +1 / how many binding votes are needed to graduate?
> I think you may be a bit too concerned about the rules, which results
> in slightly missing the point.
> A project graduates from the incubator when the incubator PMC comes to
> a consensus that the project has resolved any existing legal issues,
> has built a sustainable community around itself, and is operating in a
> way that is consistent with how successful ASF projects operate.  You
> should be asking the question "what do we have to do to convince the
> Incubator PMC that we have done these things", not "how many people do
> we have to get to vote +1 on letting us graduate".
> In most ASF projects, it is exceptionally rare to get to the point
> where you're actually counting votes.  When something is contentious
> enough to require that, it's a bad sign.
> Just my opinion, not speaking on behalf of the Incubator PMC, etc.
> -garrett
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Matthias Wessendorf

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