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From "Mike Milinkovich" <>
Subject RE: AJAX Toolkit Framework Proposal
Date Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:13:58 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> Now to directly Cliff's question: yes, we considered 
> proposing this to Eclipse.  And we talked with a number of 
> people there.  And surprisingly enough - we thought those 
> discussions were settled but they seem to have sprung back up 
> again after Adam sent in the proposal.


This is absolutely incorrect. If you were surprised, you were misinformed.
(I appreciate that you were not directly engaged with Eclipse prior to this
proposal being made public.)

But we categorically deny the assertion that discussions were settled or
that this proposal was anything other than a complete and unpleasant
surprise to Eclipse.

The last talk we had with IBM concerning this project was on October 20th
and was to the affect that the runtime components would go to Apache and the
tools components would go to Eclipse. Runtime at Apache, tools at Eclipse. A
pattern we have all seen executed succesfully before. 

An email from me to IBM regarding the status of this proposal dated Dec.
15th went unanswered until 6:15 ET this evening, after this proposal was
launched at Apache, and this conversation on the mailing list ensued.

What or who made you think discussions were "settled"? 

Mike Milinkovich
Executive Director,
Eclipse Foundation, Inc.

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