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From Sanjiva Weerawarana <>
Subject Re: Corporations and the incubator
Date Mon, 26 Dec 2005 02:03:52 GMT
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 13:00 -0700, Martin Sebor wrote:
> > Don't do a press release.  An incubating project is not officially  part 
> > of the ASF, and a press release will imply that the project is  part of 
> > the ASF.  This one really makes ASF members angry, so don't  go here.
> -1
> Press releases are a means for companies to announce noteworthy
> events to the public. 
> > Don't "just" print some t-shirts with the ASF logo or the incubating  
> > project's logo.  See "Don't do a press release" for reasons.
> -1
> I see nothing wrong with printing T-shirts or other promotional
> items as long as their design is approved by the ASF. 

I disagree on both counts - while going thru incubation it is important
to recognize that a project is *not* part of the ASF until it completes
incubation. If we allow people to do press releases, print t-shirts and
coffee mugs etc., then the rest of the world has no way to distinguish
between a real ASF project and an incubating one. 

We don't allow code releases from the incubator except with carefully
minted words. Given we can't do that with t-shirts, its best to just say
no. Press releases could have the disclaimer text- but the reality is
that when the story gets carried by various folks they drop that stuff-
the story simply isn't powerful enough with a disclaimer. So we end up

So I agree with Dain's proposals!


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