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From Sanjiva Weerawarana <>
Subject Re: AJAX Toolkit Framework Proposal
Date Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:56:40 GMT
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 22:10 -0800, Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> My second reason for asking was as a polite gesture towards the
> Eclipse Foundation, being another respectable, non-profit, open source
> organization. 

I have ABSOLUTELY nothing against the Eclipse Foundation or their
products; I'm myself a very happy Eclipse user myself and fully
appreciate that there's such a high quality free product available for

However, after having been on the other side of this discussion during
the Synapse startup with the hullabaloo caused by ObjectWeb folks, I
have no patience for any kind of "this space is mine, you keep to yours"
type nonsense. I totally agree that the only discussion here should be
does ASF want to take this on or not, not on whether Eclipse folks feel
it "rightfully" belongs there or not. (No Mike, I'm not saying you said

>  I strongly believe that the ASF is not an island in the
> world of open source, and that it is good for us and all participants
> in open source if we do what we can to minimize communication problems
> about projects that others may have an interest in. 

Indeed. However, the corporate interest of a foundation has much lesser
weight in my book than what other ASFers think in evaluating this stuff.

I do share many of Martin Cooper's concerns about this project however,
especially the last one. 


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