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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Re: Fwd: [PROPOSAL] Apache TSIK
Date Mon, 23 May 2005 15:04:17 GMT

Yep. That is the role of a mentor to guide the new project and "build
meaningful ties". Do you want to sign up? :)


On 5/23/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana <> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 20:05 +1000, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> > > - If yes, I am concerned having a permanent split is not the most
> > > healthy thing for the Apache developer community.
> >
> > Is there anything intrinsically wrong with a different implementation of
> > the same stuff in the ASF?
> At the core of that question, of course not.
> > One of the things that *might* be interesting, would be to look at each
> > component and see where we can merge things together to come up with an
> > even better whole.
> This is a tautological kind of position that I possibly cannot argue
> against :-).
> However ...
> *If* there was some cross participation in the projects of the people
> coming in, then I agree this would be the expected outcome. However,
> when you take an existing, active, Apache project (area) and inject a
> brand new parallel path with two committers who appear to be new to
> Apache and have no experience in the Apache codebase(s) (of necessity as
> they had to do a cleanroom impl for their org I'll bet), then IMO its
> not a healthy thing for our community.
> I guess it depends on how you define community - to me its *first* the
> current community and 2nd the people injecting some code into ASF.
> I would prefer to see us put a requirement that during incubation the
> project must build meaningful ties into the other WS projects - via
> cross committers and interdependency. That requires the marriage that
> you envision (and which I, of course, agree with) to occur before the
> project can be considered to have passed incubation.
> Sanjiva.
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