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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Re: Harmony: project purpose
Date Sat, 07 May 2005 02:34:33 GMT

People working on Kaffe/Classpath are gonna advise us..see their names
on the proposal :)  We (Apache Gump team) has been working with them
to make Kaffe/Classpath better for a while now
( Harmony is going
to increase synergies. We are working in parallel with FSF folks on
the licensing issues as well for while now. Please see the FAQ as
well. we are gonna leverage every bit of code and expertise that we
can to make this happen.

-- dims

On 5/6/05, Simon Kitching <> wrote:
> Hi,
> Can someone clarify for me why Harmony is being proposed when GNU
> Classpath, Kaffe and other projects are quite a long way to satisfying
> the goal of a Free Java environment?
> Is it:
> * That SUN is not expected to ever grant a free license to run the TCK
> for a GPL-licensed project, so the only way to get a "certified" free
> Java implementation is to ignore the existing GPL'd stuff and start
> again from scratch?
> * That you feel that more contributors will be involved in an
> Apache-licensed project than in a GPL-licensed project, resulting in a
> better overall end result? If so, why?
> * That you feel that the availability of an Apache-licensed project is
> important enough to duplicate all the existing GPL'd effort? If so, why?
> Who in particular wants an Apache-licensed implementation and can't
> accept a GPL'd one?
> * That Kaffe/Classpath are somehow flawed and that it is necessary to
> start again?
> * That because Apache is a well-respected player in the Java community
> that a project hosted at Apache will be so much better accepted that it
> is worth discarding all the Kaffe/Classpath work done so far?
> Regards,
> Simon
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