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From Simon Kitching <>
Subject Harmony: project purpose
Date Sat, 07 May 2005 02:26:35 GMT

Can someone clarify for me why Harmony is being proposed when GNU
Classpath, Kaffe and other projects are quite a long way to satisfying
the goal of a Free Java environment?

Is it:

* That SUN is not expected to ever grant a free license to run the TCK
for a GPL-licensed project, so the only way to get a "certified" free
Java implementation is to ignore the existing GPL'd stuff and start
again from scratch?

* That you feel that more contributors will be involved in an
Apache-licensed project than in a GPL-licensed project, resulting in a
better overall end result? If so, why?

* That you feel that the availability of an Apache-licensed project is
important enough to duplicate all the existing GPL'd effort? If so, why?
Who in particular wants an Apache-licensed implementation and can't
accept a GPL'd one?

* That Kaffe/Classpath are somehow flawed and that it is necessary to
start again?

* That because Apache is a well-respected player in the Java community
that a project hosted at Apache will be so much better accepted that it
is worth discarding all the Kaffe/Classpath work done so far?



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