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From Martin Marinschek <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] MyFaces
Date Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:59:58 GMT
what if I just copy the proposal and attach it to this mail, and what 
people voted about was this version?

That should be open - as anybody can read the mailing list archive and 
rather static, as nobody will be able to change the content of my e-mail.

Best regards,


*Proposal for new project MyFaces 

17 June 2004, The MyFaces <> 
Team (contributions by: Martin Marinschek, martin at marinschek dot com; 
Ted Husted, husted at apache dot org.)


*(0) rationale*

The goal of MyFaces <> is to 
create and maintain a complete and correct open source implementation of 
the JavaServer <>(tm) Faces 
specification. JavaServer <> 
Faces (JSR 127) is the new standard user interface framework for 
building web applications in Java.

MyFaces <> encourages the 
community to provide additional components that can be used in the 
JavaServer <>(tm) Faces 
framework. MyFaces <> strives to 
provide an environment where open source developers can create new 
components and contribute them back to the community.

*(0.1) criteria*

/Meritocracy: /

The development of MyFaces <> is 
consensus-based. Discussions take place on the Developer list at 
SourceForge <>. The 
developers work as a team. Individuals sometimes take the initiative, 
and other times an idea is discussed at length before it is implemented. 
Developers often employ Apache conventions, such as "+1", when coming to 

/Community: /

The MyFaces <> project was 
founded two years ago. Interest in the project has grown steadily as the 
JSF specification neared completition. Currently, the project is hosted 
at SourceForge <>, where 13 
developers act as "Committers". Currently, the two mailing-lists have 
over 150 subscribers, with over 1300 posts. Over 60 problem tickets have 
been filed and 6 remain open.

/Core Developers:/

The MyFaces <> project was 
founded by two developers, then freelancers. Today, one of them is an 
employee of the OeKB (Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG). The projects 
other developers hail from many different companies and organizations. 
Their work on MyFaces <> are 
individual contributions, and all developers have already filed 
Contributor License Agreements with the ASF.


JavaServer <>(tm) Faces is 
part of the J2EE infrastructure, and so MyFaces 
<> aligns with any ASF project 
that utilizes the J2SE or J2EE infrastructure. Of particular relevance 
are projects such as Geronimo, Struts, and Jakarta Taglibs.

*(0.2) warning signs*

/Orphaned products: /

All of the active developers would like to become MyFaces 
<> Committers or PMC Members and 
plan to remain active in the project. The first release of the JSF 
specification was finalized only this year, and a long lifecycle is 

/Inexperience with open source:/

The MyFaces <> project has 
operated as healthy, public open source for two years. Several of the 
developers work as committers on other open-source projects.

/Homogenous developers:/

The developers have no no strong association with any single 
organisation or company. Geographically, the community is widespread 
(mainly the US and several European countries). Development discussions 
take place on the public developers list.

/Reliance on salaried developers:/

None of the developers were hired to work on MyFaces 
<>. All came to the project 
voluntarily and work on MyFaces 
<> because they are interested 
in the project. Some of the developers use MyFaces 
<> in the web applications they 
write for their employer, others use MyFaces 
<> as part of their university 
studies or research projects.

/No ties to other Apache products:/

MyFaces <> has strong ties to 
several Apache projects, especially components of the Jakarta Commons. 
Developers are working directly with Struts to ensure the Struts Faces 
taglib works well with MyFaces 
<>. As work on Geronimo 
proceeds, MyFaces <> will likely 
develop strong ties with that project too.

/A fascination with the Apache brand:/

MyFaces <> shares a common 
culture with the Apache Software Foundation and now a common license. 
The developers believe that by joining the ASF, the MyFaces 
<> community will continue to 
grow and continue to attract top-grade developers. The developers 
respect and admire Apache products and would like MyFaces 
<> to become one.

*(1) scope of the subprojects*

As an ASF project, the scope of JavaServer 
<>(tm) Faces is broad enough 
to merit a top-level project. However, MyFaces 
<> may also work well as a 
subproject of an existing Apache project, such as Geronimo or Struts. 
Our initial preference would be to enter as a TLP, but we leave it to 
the Incubator PMC and ASF Board to make the final decision.

MyFaces <> would likely have 
three related sub-projects:

    * *MyFaces <> JSF API
      Implementation* - implementation of the JavaServer
      <>(tm) Faces API
      (javax.faces.* classes) defined in the specification
    * *MyFaces <> JSF Core
      Implementation* - the actual JSF implementation, which is the core
      of the MyFaces <> project
    * *MyFaces <> Components and
      Extensions* - custom JavaServer
      <>(tm) Faces components
      and extensions to standard components which should ideally run
      with any JSR-127 conformant JSF implementation

*(2) identify the initial source from which the subproject is to be 

Source- and binary downloads can be found at:

The source-code is provided under the Apache License, Version 2.0

*(3) identify the ASF resources to be created *

*(3.1) mailing list(s) *

    * myfaces-dev
    * myfaces-user
    * myfaces-cvs

*(3.2) Subversion or CVS repositories*

A CVS-repository with one module:

    * apache-myfaces

The developers understand that a migration to Subversion will happen at 
a later date.

*(3.3) Issue Tracking*

MyFaces <>-Bugs MyFaces 
<>-Features MyFaces 

*(4) identify the initial set of committers *

    * Bill Dudney
    * Anton Koinov
    * Dan Hodnett
    * Grant Smith
    * Louis Calisi
    * Manfred Geiler (*)
    * Matthias Wessendorf (*)
    * Oliver Rossmueller (*)
    * Travis Reeder
    * Thomas Spiegl (*)
    * Sylvain Vieujot (*)
    * Martin Marinschek (*)

      (*) = CLA on file

*(5) identify apache sponsoring individual *

    * Ted Husted, Champion (ASF Member, Struts PMC, Jakarta PMC)
    * James Holmes, Mentor (Struts PMC, Jakarta PMC)

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