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From Rodent of Unusual Size <Ken.C...@Golux.Com>
Subject Re: Personal attacks and respect
Date Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:02:07 GMT

Steven Noels wrote:
> Please, not here. I'm quite confident that a good portion of the
> inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win"
> this flamefest. At least I am not, and I can imagine that neither
> general@ nor pmc@i.a.o are to be bothered with thread fallout debris
> like this. It ain't fun nor educating to watch.

well, sometimes you have to deal with unpleasant things.  that's life.
it seems fairly clear to me that this issue isn't going to go away
without some sort of arbitration, if then; there will continue to
be eruptions of this sort until it is handled.  personally, i think
repeated eruptions will have a more deleterious effect than one
long one that kills the volcano for good and all.

also remember: we're about community, and about openness.  we have a
community issue here, and i think it is improper to turn our backs
on it.  the incubator more than any other part of the foundation is
where this should be handled, i think; if you can think of a better,
please say so.  but i don't think the issue is going to go away just
by wishing or covering it up and pretending it doesn't exist.

i haven't finished reading all the threads, so i'm withholding my
opinion until i do.

something is going to be done about this.  the differences will be
reconciled, or one or the other or both parties will 'leave' (work
on projects that have no intersection with the other person), or
someone (or someones) will get a metaphorical smack upside the head.
it will not be allowed to fester indefinitely.

and these things happen, so figuring out how to deal with them
provides valuable examples and material for the 'keeping a community
healthy' aspect of our documentation.
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Author, developer, opinionist      http://Apache-Server.Com/

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