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From Robert McIntosh <>
Subject Re: Chameleon proposal
Date Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:17:35 GMT
Yea, it is a bit of a chicken and the egg thing :-)
However, there is one developer, possibly two at my company that are 
interested and another two developers outside of my company that are 
interested as well.
So far I have resisted the urge to hit some of the lists I'm on to gather 
up support as I know off-topic stuff isn't always that welcome. I believe 
that with Apache owning it and with it being a persistence engine that 
fills some needs not found in other persistence tools, it will thrive.  I 
know that with db.apache already having two O/R mappers, three might seem 
like a crowd and while Chameleon can fit into the role of an O/R mapper, 
its scope it more general, and therefore potentially  have a larger user 
base, than that of a straight O/R system.

As for source, I just zipped up the source and put in on the site at: It doesn't include the 
forrest docs or the maven project files, but just the source and JUnit 
source. Eclipse has made me just a tad lazy about keeping the maven file 
up to date, but I can do so and provide those if anyone wants to do a 
build and execute the tests.


Brian McCallister <> 
06/17/2004 05:53 AM
Please respond to


Re: Chameleon proposal

Is there any code actually available right now? I couldn't find 
anything on the site.

Is anyone involved with Chameleon's development besides yourself? (I 
know you are looking for additional developers, but is there anyone 
else right now? A stable community is a key component to an ASF project 
(which can seem like a chicken and egg problem at times)).



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