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From Gianugo Rabellino <>
Subject Re: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release
Date Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:54:43 GMT
On Jun 11, 2004, at 4:33 PM, Steven Noels wrote:
>> What is your take on the readiness of Lenya to leave the Incubator, 
>> and on
>> the question of putting out a milestone?  Just as a reminder, the
>> distribution would have to be tagged as an incubator distribution, 
>> not an
>> ASF release.
> (soapbox-mode)
> My take is that - at last, and pushed forward primarily by the group 
> of non-Wyona, newbie committers - the urgent need for release and exit 
> has been recognized and is in the process of being addressed 
> adequately. For one reason or another, this has never been pushed 
> forward by the original donators, but now, the momentum has changed to 
> a positive effect.
> All this being considered, I'm +1 on release and consecutively exit 
> from the incubator.
> I'll be carefully looking after ASF brand abuse however in the 
> forthcoming months. This entire incubation episode has left me with 
> dubious feelings: for a long time, I've been thinking that Lenya would 
> be a sad example of premature ASF donation.

Uhm, I'm a bit at loss here: how could you suggest an incubator exit 
*AND* warn against potential brand abuse talking about dubious 
feelings? If there are any problems (sorry, I don't know Lenya enough 
to go beyond belly thoughts, so I won't state my inaccurate position 
here), shouldn't they be faced _inside_ the incubator?

(which brings me to something that I've been wondering for a long time: 
I understand that incubation has two possible exit codes, but do you 
*really* envision any project being kicked off the ASF? I could 
envision a project deciding not to go any further and fail voluntarily 
incubation, but I just can't imagine the incubator kicking 
people/projects out. Hmmm... yeah, I should just STFU since I basically 
don't know a thing about the incubation process, I assume you guys have 
been through this)

Gianugo Rabellino
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