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From Steven Noels <>
Subject Re: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release
Date Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:33:09 GMT
On 11 Jun 2004, at 14:13, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> What is your take on the readiness of Lenya to leave the Incubator, 
> and on
> the question of putting out a milestone?  Just as a reminder, the
> distribution would have to be tagged as an incubator distribution, not 
> an
> ASF release.


My take is that - at last, and pushed forward primarily by the group of 
non-Wyona, newbie committers - the urgent need for release and exit has 
been recognized and is in the process of being addressed adequately. 
For one reason or another, this has never been pushed forward by the 
original donators, but now, the momentum has changed to a positive 

All this being considered, I'm +1 on release and consecutively exit 
from the incubator.

I'll be carefully looking after ASF brand abuse however in the 
forthcoming months. This entire incubation episode has left me with 
dubious feelings: for a long time, I've been thinking that Lenya would 
be a sad example of premature ASF donation. It is good to see that some 
volunteers finally stepped up and managed to create real momentum, and 
I can only hope they will last for a long time. Lenya will still need 
to acquire more external contributors to help them with this effort.

Steven Noels                  
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