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From Leo Simons <>
Subject Re: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release
Date Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:54:29 GMT
Hi Andreas!

Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
> I think that it should be the task of the Apache Incubator to help exiting the
> incubator. It should not try to artificially block releases.

actually, the task of the incubator is to help projects and people find 
their place in the asf whilst simultaneously protecting the interests of 
the ASF. It is the task of the projects being incubated to work towards 
exiting the incubator. The incubator will offer guidance and advice 
(mostly in the form of one or two mentors), but if it is deemed in the 
best interest of the ASF, yes, that takes precedence.

The blockade(s) put up by the incubator are not artificial. They're 
there to help ensure projects do things "the apache way". In this case, 
Noel has raised some perfectly valid concerns about files living on without a PMC putting them there (which is a 
*big thing*, for legal and other reasons). If I were lenya, I wouldn't 
complain about constraints, but just address those concerns. You will 
see constraints vanishing in smoke.


- Leo

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