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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: [HEADSUP] New Incubator site in CVS
Date Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:30:13 GMT
This is pretty nice looking and better than what I could do in a finite  
amount of time:-)

A couple of comments, I apologize that they are somewhat negative.

-- The material in the left sidebar seems to me to change randomly  
depending on which page I'm on.  The result is that I think the site is  
a disorganized maze.  I don't know how these sidebars are generated,  
but if they were all the same or all the same for a given tab it would  
be much less confusing for me.

--Perhaps this is covered in your request for a better boilerplate  
status template, but I can't discern how the alleged STATUS file is  
intended to relate to the STATUS web page linked to from the  
list-of-projects page.  My impression from loosely following this list  
is that the STATUS file for a podling is supposed to be plain text and  
confine itself to noting which of the steps shown in the STATUS web  
page have been passed, which have problems, and which have not yet been  
attempted.  Again, my impression is that any information on the actual  
development state of the project (such as most of the geronimo status  
email) is supposed to be elsewhere, such as on the projects' web site.   
If indeed the official cvs STATUS page is supposed to be plain text,  
all the html seems redundant and confusing.  If the idea is to render  
an xml status document into html, putting a few "answers" into the html  
would make the intent much clearer.

Many thanks for working to make the incubation process clearer and more  

david jencks

On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 11:17 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

> I have finished porting all the old site to the new layout.
> The site source is under the "incubator" CVS, and the layout has been  
> changed to make it shallower and all docs are under the site.
> The built site is under "incubator-site/build/site", as before.
> I have not yet published the site, and a built site of what is now in  
> "incubator" CVS can be seen here [1].
> NOTE: Current incubator site has to be rendered with the latest  
> Forrest from CVS, which BTW renders the docs in-place (no more copying  
> sources in the build dir). Till the ForrestBot is not setup, I will  
> take care of updating the site when needed.
> All the main resources for each project are now under:
>    site/projects/index.cwiki
> Each project has only *one* file for incubation status tracking:
>   site/projects/$projectname.{xml|cwiki|txt|ihtml}
> TODO (please help):
>  1 - make a really workable project status boilerplate doc
>  2 - update site/projects/index.cwiki to reflect real resources
>  3 - start voting the RFCs
> [1]  
> index.html
> -- 
> Nicola Ken Barozzi         
>             - verba volant, scripta manent -
>    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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