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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project
Date Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:00:26 GMT
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>We have not voted on any definitive resolution about this, but currently
>>there is an informal rule sprung out of necessity that each incubating
>>project should have someone from Apache that sponsors and actively works
>>with the project, and a shepherd from the PMC that oversees and reports
>>back to the PMC.
>>The incubator shepherd is someone that has already seen incubating
>>projects and gives advise based on Incubator experience, and is the
>>legal bind to the PMC.
>>The sponsor instead is a more active figure that pushes forward the
>>issues and solves them. He usually does not usually incubate projects,
>>and thus refers to the shepherd for extra guidance, and will probably
>>not incubate other projects. We can say that this person is the one that
>>is doing th eactual community incubation.
> Fair enough.  I see the point you are making.  Hopefully the Sponsor does
> the lion's share of the incubation, because the Shepherd is likely to have
> to watch over multiple projects.  Also, what you propose is a process that
> should help to transfer incubation expertise (as it develops) so that more
> Shepherds can be bred to the process.

Exactly! :-)

>>This makes the incubator into a place where the sponsor can incubate
>>projects, as it was before, but there is a PMC that can oversee the
>>process and can ensure that some rules that the Apache must see applied
>>are done.
> I think that would happen with either approach.  Your variation brings a
> personal PMC contact into the picture, rather than the Sponsor acting as
> Shepherd, and working with the PMC as a whole.  I don't think that it scales
> without growing the PMC, but the process will help to create more
> experienced Shepherds, and that will enable the process to scale over time.

Yup, this is the idea :-D

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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