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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: ASF member role - accountable to whom
Date Fri, 19 Sep 2003 02:13:39 GMT
>>>ASF Member status continues to maintain a certain club quality
>>>within which privaliges ebb-and-flow toi sute the moment).
> I want you to think of two societies (a) a small society that
> establishes a board which creates the notion of membership by
> invitation which influences the evolution of Apache via the
> incubator

A "small" society that established a legal non-profit organization for the
common good, a process for growth, and which created an Incubator to help
ensure that growth was met with legal oversight, as well as the PMC process
providing the same for established projects.  Along with legal protection
for its contributors, which requires oversight to preserve.

> as opposed to (b) a broader and more open society the elects
> members that are charged with and accountable to its electorate
> community for the evolution of Apache via the incubator.

> Which of these two views do you subscribe to?

You put forth (a) sound like its a bad thing, but let me point out that the
ASF started as just the titular HTTP web server, a project that I and many
others have never worked on.  The ASF today has grown tremendously in scope
from that beginning.  And the Member roster is beginning to reflect that as
new Members are elected.

>  ... and, to whom is the ASF Member accountable?

In all contexts, to himself/herself, but if you mean in terms of ASF related
behavior, that would be governed by our Bylaws and policies.  To imply that
ASF Members are not accountable would be a horrid stretch.

AFAICS, ASF Members come in all sizes and shapes.  The only thing that they
necessarily have in common is that others perceive in them the desire to see
the Foundation flourish, and trust them to help make that happen.  Please
note that in the most recent election of Members, the roster grew by over

	--- Noel

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