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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project
Date Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:01:52 GMT
Sam Ruby wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Jakarta has too much on its plate and should probably be closed to new
> > projects until more of the existing ones are promoted to TLP status,
> > so I'd suggest DB, instead.  But it ought not come to that, given the
> > Board's TLP directive.

> Embedded in that first sentence is a statement that I think is a bit too
> strong, IMHO.

Perhaps, but if so, not by much (I didn't say IMO, because I think that this
whole discussion is one of personal opinion).  And I am not anti-Jakarta.
It just seems encumbered by size.

> Jakarta's growth rate has slowed down to a near stop.

Cause or effect?  :-)

> I would support JetSpeed+Pluto+WSRP4J+possibly others
> eventually becoming [a TLP].

Agreed.  Other candidates that have been suggested by one person or another

   Lucene (or to

separately or in some semantically related combination.  Lucene, for
example, doesn't get nearly the "mindshare" that it ought.

> One thing that should be abundantly clear is that every Jakarta code
> base that has desired to become a top level project has had the full
> support of the Jakarta PMC in achieving this goal.

I don't doubt it, and the proof ought to be in the ones that have already
done so.  I do ask if the PMC doing anything to help encourage other
projects to matriculate?  I must stress that is a question, not a backhanded
comment.  I really have no idea.

	--- Noel

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