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From Rodent of Unusual Size <Ken.C...@Golux.Com>
Subject Re: Getting the distribution onto a download site somewhere ...
Date Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:09:36 GMT
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>> i think the point is that a podling is *not* part of the
>> asf, and is therefore not entitled to distribute something
>> with the asf's name on it.  if the podling graduates, i don't
>> see any bar to whatever packages were built during incubation
>> being retitled as asf ones.
> There are several things I do not understand here. First of all, IMO, by 
> accepting a project for incubation, it is part of the ASF.

no, it is a *candidate to become* part of the asf.  if it fails to
exit the incubator, for whatever reason, it doesn't wander off into
the sunset bearing the asf name with it. :-)

> For whatever 
> other reason am I expected to sign a contribution agreement at the 
> beginning? From your point of view, it would be suffigient to sign when
> the project exits incubation.

because the code is being stored on asf infrastructure, among other

> Next, assuming that my point is wrong, I would assume that incubation is 
> targetted to be a process of transition. Which means, that a project is at 
> some point perhaps not completely ready, but with a sufficient progress. 
> What good does it, to insist in the "final 20 percent" or whatever you are 
> missing?

i'm having trouble parsing that, so i can't respond intelligently.
can you rephrase?

> Finally, you should not forget that incubated projects are frequently mature 
> and well maintained. What good does it, to forbid them to publish, for 
> example, a release that is "identical to the last public release, except
> that the package names are being updated". IMO this is the least what users 
> can expect to guide them in their own transition as soon as possible.

as far as i'm concerned, they can publish whatever they want -- but they
can't call it an asf release.  i don't think any harm would be done if
a ga release were made during incubation, labeled with the pre-incubation
name (i.e., not mentioning the asf at all), but i'd have to consider it more
to feel sure about that.
#ken	P-)}

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