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From Tetsuya Kitahata <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project
Date Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:14:31 GMT

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:27:52 +0200
Jochen Wiedmann <> wrote:

> I have no idea of the organisational rationale behind the desire for more 
> TLP's. Personally I have serious doubts that it is a good decision: AFAIK 
> any TLP is sending his chair to the board, and I do not believe, that a 
> board of hundred people is better to manage than now. Likewise, I do not 
> believe that a discussion between hundred TLP's will succeed faster than 
> between ten. But that's your side.

> However, if you really think there is reason for more TLP's, *please* 
> consider to keep a reasonable hierarchy for those silly users like me.

I thought the same thing. Now I think the ASF is suffering the 
balkanization of the projects into small islands (maybe
the name "jakarta" has implied these kind of things ... )

For example, how about the formation of "Java Liaison Council"
"XML Liaison Council" in the ASF? ... 
Purpose: interchange of personnel, technologies and knowledges
         among the top level projects
         which graduated from jakarta or xml tlp, themselves and 
         related projects ...

Also, now I am trying to keep the "fresh" news from various projects
in the asf @ the top page of jakarta project. "Jakarta" = "Java Portal
Site @ the ASF" might be reasonable and make sense from my point
of view.

I have the same worries as yours, however, I hope things will
become better than yesterday. If you have any other *nice*
opinions/ideas, please let us know.


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