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From Tetsuya Kitahata <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)
Date Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:09:23 GMT

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:18:16 -0400
(Subject: RE: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS))
"Noel J. Bergman" <> wrote:

> I think that Nicola Ken Coar would do a fine job as PMC Chair.  ;-)


> Ok, name games aside, I honestly don't know if Ken or Nicola Ken have any
> substantively different views on what should happen with Incubator.  If they
> think so, I would be interested to hear them.  Generally, I think that
> either Ken or Nicola Ken would do a fine job as PMC Chair.  One question is
> whom has more time to devote.

I thought the same thing. Also, to tell the truth, I think that 
in Incubator, there need at least two or three persons who
have real power. (One Chair and two Vice Chair?)

Incubator Project should succeed to measure up to everyone's
expectations (people from various top level projects),
however, I think there are many hurdles for them
to accomplish.

For example,

Mr. Ken Coar is rather HTTPD/ApacheCon oriented person.
Mr. Nicola Ken Barozzi is rather Jakarta/XML/Cocoon oriented person.
Mr. Paul Hammant is rather Jakarta/Avalon oriented person.
(IIRC ... correct it, please)

Willy-nilly, these "experienced-cultures" would cast a long shadow over
their activities in, and I think it could be *inevitable*.

-- There is not *one* "Apache Way" --

I think that even though one of these three persons will have been
elected as a PMC chair, the rest two should be recommended to become
something special ... ah... ##vice-chair## or something like it.
(I want to mean, ... It would be a waste of their talents if 
the rest of two persons would remain *only* one of PMC members in
Incubator project)

Hope this (above) would be considered well. Thank you for listening.

__ Tetsuya <> __

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