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From "Cliff Schmidt" <>
Subject RE: Vote for XMLBeans proposal in the XML Project (was RE: Vote for XMLBeans proposal)
Date Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:29:50 GMT
On behalf of the other committers, I would like to ask the XML PMC to 
consider accepting XMLBeans into the XML project.  We expect to address
any remaining concerns that the community has during the incubation 
period.  For your convenience, I've listed several references, including
the proposal (updated for XML only) [1], roadmap [2], detailed 
explanation [3], and my response to the first set of questions [4].

Due to the Java/XML nature of the code, we originally thought it was 
best to approach both Jakarta and XML.  While we are thrilled to have 
received positive responses from both communities, we now feel that XML
is the more appropriate project for the following reasons:

1. XMLBeans is targeted towards XML developers.  We hope to build a 
stronger community by finding more potential users and contributors
within the XML project.
2. XMLBeans is extremely focused on 100% compliance with XMLSchema.
3. XMLBeans either overlaps or complements XML subprojects like Xerces, 
WS subprojects like AXIS, and proposed subprojects like JaxMe and the
Schema API.  While there is also some overlap with Jakarta commons 
subprojects like Betwixt, we believe the XML project is the optimal 
location to address all of these issues.

If the XML PMC agrees to support XMLBeans, we would still think it will
be necessary to work closely with the Jakarta community.

While we have a couple loose ends to tie up to get the code completely 
buildable without any dependencies on LGPL or other WebLogic APIs, we
are otherwise ready to get started at any point. 



On Monday, July 07, 2003 12:55 AM, Cliff Schmidt wrote:

> Subject: RE: Vote for XMLBeans proposal
> Thanks to all of you for the many offers to help us get things
> started with XMLBeans.  It sounds like it might be easier for everyone
> if we now pick one project that we believe would be the best fit for
> XMLBeans.  From talking with a few committers,  I think we are leaning
> towards the XML project, but I would like verify that with each of the
> others.  I should be able to confirm this preference in the next 12-16
> hours.
> Thanks again to everyone for being so willing to help make this work.
> BTW, I'll be at OSCON all week, if anyone would like to discuss any
> issues further.
> Cliff
> On Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:57 AM, Aleksander Slominski wrote:
>> Subject: Re: Vote for XMLBeans proposal
>> Berin Lautenbach wrote:
>>> Ted Leung wrote:
>>>> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>>>>> If XML.Apache is willing, as it seems, to cater for this project,
>>>>> I'll wait for a vote from them, an ACK from the Bea guys, and
>>>>> start preparing the hatcher :-)
>>>> I'm happy to invest some time in helping XMLBean get throught the
>>>> incubator -- speaking with my XML PMC and ASF member hat on.
>>> The idea of moving XMLBeans to incubation under the XML project and
>>> with the assistance of Ted gets a +1 from me with some caveats :
>>> 1. Current XMLBeans committers need to be comfortable with this
>>> resting with the XML project in the first instance. Note that I
>>> would hope that the umbrella project could be changed prior to exit
>>> from incubation if the feeling from the committers was that it
>>> should be. 
>>> If the initial preference is Jakarta then please indicate! I'm
>>> definitely not trying to push a line here, and it's easy to switch
>>> the vote over to the Jakarta PMC :>.
>>> 2. Committer issues that have previously been discussed will need to
>>> be worked through during incubation (although that's really what
>>> incubation is about :>). 
>>> +/- from other XML PMC members welcome.
>>> Further discussion also welcome!
>> hi,
>> based on what I have seen when looking on XMLBeans source code and
>> (limited) design documentation I beleive that this project is very
>> interesting and useful for Web Services so I have CCed general@ws
>> mailing list too. 
>> It seems that BEA folks are willing to solve all remaining problems
>> and I think that it would be good if this project quickly gained more
>> mementum and I am willing to help with it (even though I am not
>> Apache XML commiter) 
>> thanks,
>> alek

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