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From Jochen Theodorou <>
Subject Re: [Poll] About supporting Java-like array
Date Tue, 01 May 2018 15:25:52 GMT

Oh,and one important point...

I really don't think Groovy has to support everything from Java.

On 01.05.2018 17:20, Jochen Theodorou wrote:
> On 01.05.2018 16:26, MG wrote:
>> I think we should do this, for cases where the rewards of adhering to 
>> idiomatic Groovy are less obvious or it might be missed that there 
>> even _is_ an idiomatic Groovy way to do things (I have heard some 
>> people were not aware that array initialization without "as" was 
>> supported in Groovy ;-) ).
>> Any particular thoughts on how to go about adding such warnings ?
> if people care about my position:
> * for me compiler warnings are useless. Either there is a problem, then 
> it is an error, or there is not, then there is no need for a warning. 
> C(++) is really bad here and Java also has a bad tradition on this, that 
> is getting worse. I used to work with gcc for example with -Wall 
> -Werror, which means to turn on most of the warnings and make them errors.
> * code styling is not the task of the compiler
> * I have nothing against an extra tool, that tells people about coding 
> standards and idiomatic ways, as long as it is not part of the compiler 
> itself and I am not forced to use it. I really do not appreciate sonar 
> (nothing against the project really!) for example telling me about the 
> order of modifiers in my java code, just because of some obscure 
> readability aspect ;)
> * and if you really want things to be aligned, do it like Go and make a 
> "code formatter tool" (it really has to be more than that), that changes 
> your code to "idiomatic" usage.
> bye Jochen

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