+1 to what Guillaume said :) Common guys! Lets focus on wh= at we think is a great language and let others think what they want!=C2=A0<= div>
Regarding the duration of the award. I've though abo= ut it, trying not to think in terms of annually or permanent, but trying to= see what's out there outside the CS world, and I ended up thinking on = the Nobel prize. I'd like some ideas of Nobel prize:
• = Takes place every year
• A given prize could be vacant a given ye= ar.=C2=A0
• It's so important that it's really noticeable= to be awarded
• Makes people very proud of some achievement they= did a given year
• Once you're a Nobel you will always be a = Nobel.
• Of=C2=A0 course there's been awarded people that even re= jected the prize but that never really underrated the prize overtime=C2=A0<= /li>
• New members are chosen by previous members and some other relevant = people (members of the parliament among others). Here I'd=C2=A0add the idea of letting anybody to propose a nominee, but= leaving the final decision to the prize committee (whatever we decide who = is in)
Despite the difference of content between= the Nobel prize and the Groovy awards, after reviewing these points I thin= k they seem to fit better in the Groovy Champions/Stars idea. There is also= something I haven't heard yet. I guess this will require a kind of per= manent organization, e.g. to contact members, nominees, organize the awards= , a web to show the winners...etc

BTW: Here you ha= ve another naming for the awards: Groovisimo Awards. Can you imaging a &quo= t;Groovisimo" statue like the Oscars ? It would be a blast XDDDD=C2=A0= =C2=A0

My two cents
Mario

2018-02-25 10:53 GMT= +01:00 Guillaume Laforge :
James Stachan's quote has really= been taken out of context, and over-exagerated bu the Scala-fanboys.
I= f Scala had been what it is now, James would probably not have initiated Gr= oovy *then*. But Scala was nascent just like Groovy *then*.
It= 9;s like if Gavin King had said that he wouldn't have invented Hibernat= e if JPA had existed... but JPA came ten years later.

<= div>This quote was really harmful, but as the saying goes, lots of water= 9;s gone through the bridges since then.

There'= ;s still the myth of slowliness, which we all know is not true anymore, eve= n in pure dynamic mode (without even mentioning static compilation)=C2=A0
Usually, you spend way more time in network latency (access to rem= ote resources, access to database, etc) than waiting for the CPU spent by j= ust the pure language execution time.

Also back on= James Strachan: he went to play with Scala, then with Kotlin, and has come= back to using Groovy.
He's using Groovy on a regular basis t= hrough his work with Jenkins, its pipelines, etc.
So he's bac= k at his old love!

So let's turn the page on t= hose stories, please.
<= div>
Guillaume

= On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Daniel Sun wrote:
The creator of G= roovy said "I can honestly say if someone had shown me the
Programming in Scala book...". I think he compared Scala with the old<= br> version of Groovy he created in about 2003. As we all know, Groovy has
evolved a lot, so I never care about others' out-dated opinions on Groo= vy :)

<= /div>--
Guillaume Laforge
Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-Presid= ent